tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post113916201202464074..comments2024-02-10T03:32:37.042-05:00Comments on Sam Freedom's Internet Marketing Controversy Blog: The Case for a Sustainable 12DailyPROSam Freedomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13264995340321794515noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1140725692834413832006-02-23T15:14:00.000-05:002006-02-23T15:14:00.000-05:00Hi Scott,Good point, but for the record, that was ...Hi Scott,<BR/><BR/>Good point, but for the record, that was my Point #2, check it out again. People forget. Someone said that would a poor business plan to bank on people forgetting, but they do. And since this industry literally had to SQUEEZE into the business world, factoring in things like that was just plain intelligent.<BR/><BR/>As for a phase 2, you and I had different ideas. I thoughtSam Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264995340321794515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1140701470999983212006-02-23T08:31:00.000-05:002006-02-23T08:31:00.000-05:00Sam, You're forgetting another reason 12 Daily Pro...Sam, <BR/><BR/>You're forgetting another reason 12 Daily Pro doesn't pay out 12% daily. How many people out of 350,000 miss at least 1 day of surfing per cycle for one reason or another. Missing only 1 day reduces your returns significantly. Miss 4 days of the 12 and you <I>lose</I> money. I'll bet this factor brings the total daily return required of 12DP down below 2% on average.<BR/><BR/>One Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1140684172341522762006-02-23T03:42:00.000-05:002006-02-23T03:42:00.000-05:00Been a while since I got around to responding to t...Been a while since I got around to responding to this thread, but here's the fact that YOU MUST CONSIDER when formulating such things.<BR/><BR/>Like any ordinary thinker, you compare Google advertising to Autosurf advertising as if it were oranges to oranges.<BR/><BR/>Not only do they appeal to different people as in some people can wrap their minds around Google and play around in there all day Sam Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264995340321794515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1139816792373241552006-02-13T02:46:00.000-05:002006-02-13T02:46:00.000-05:00Promoting my blog again:(Ponzi? Autosurf) lalalala...Promoting my blog again:<BR/><A HREF="http://pofm.blogspot.com/2006/01/ponzi-autosurf.html" REL="nofollow">(Ponzi? Autosurf)</A> lalalalala....<BR/><BR/>NetIBA is one weird beast BTW. To call themselves "The Internet Authority" feels like hubris to me. The 'Net's too big for anything to be an authority on it. Like I say in my blog, the nearest thing we have to an Internet Authority would be Alan Manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06159757852980295097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1139724847215622252006-02-12T01:14:00.000-05:002006-02-12T01:14:00.000-05:00To Sam Freedom: You have a great mind! You are on...<B>To Sam Freedom: </B> You have a great mind! You are one of the few that dig deeper into the issue.<BR/><BR/>I believe that both companies, StormPay & 12DailyPro, are crooks. StormPay's NetIBA certification process is a joke and its fees are outrageous. But at least it is up front about the charges. And 12DailyPro... (i don't think it's necessary to list why).<BR/><BR/>I am surprised that so Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1139644092681942442006-02-11T02:48:00.000-05:002006-02-11T02:48:00.000-05:00Mike,Thanks again for your kind words. Bottom lin...Mike,<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for your kind words. Bottom line is that we're no different than any other creature in that there are bigger things that would like to eat us.<BR/><BR/>Best to align with a very Big Fish and hang onto its fins until we're strong enough to swim into deeper waters.<BR/><BR/>This latest fiasco has been fascinating.<BR/><BR/>And ANONYMOUS...I, too, thought maybe Sam Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264995340321794515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1139560414126054952006-02-10T03:33:00.000-05:002006-02-10T03:33:00.000-05:00It's a conspiracy!12DailyPro and Stormpay planned ...It's a conspiracy!<BR/>12DailyPro and Stormpay planned the whole thing.<BR/>Think about it... all the delays and inconsistent statements by both sides.<BR/>just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1139319769041559232006-02-07T08:42:00.000-05:002006-02-07T08:42:00.000-05:00Sam,Thanks for the link. I saw that on another po...Sam,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link. I saw that on another post you had (I spent the last 24 hours reading your entire blog). I ran across your name while researching Mike Filsaime on a link at howtocorp. It was a reply to some lady who had issues with Mike, and I said, "who the heck is Sam Freedom???". So then I did a google search and found out you were the coolest guy on the planet (LOL). Just Another Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03043183864237181343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1139311428980745362006-02-07T06:23:00.000-05:002006-02-07T06:23:00.000-05:00Hi Michael,Welcome to the blog. :-)You can succeed...Hi Michael,<BR/><BR/>Welcome to the blog. :-)<BR/><BR/>You can succeed anywhere you want if you maintain the right attitude. Opportunities are not limited to any one area, they are everywhere. When you apply the ideas of men like Napoleon Hill, and educate yourself with financial ideas of men like Robert Kiyosaki, then you can be selling in niches or selling the tools of marketers and you'll do Sam Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264995340321794515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1139279109512844592006-02-06T21:25:00.000-05:002006-02-06T21:25:00.000-05:00Sam,I just found your blog somewhere along the lin...Sam,<BR/><BR/>I just found your blog somewhere along the line while researching Mike Filsaime and Butterfly Marketing. I like the fact that you shoot people straight and don't pull any punches! If only there was a greater proliferation of such honesty and candor with internet marketing. Which brings me to my question today: Is it just my perception, or is the majority of the 'big money' in Just Another Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03043183864237181343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1139228449270200162006-02-06T07:20:00.000-05:002006-02-06T07:20:00.000-05:00Hi MD1,There's some great conversation about this ...Hi MD1,<BR/><BR/>There's some great conversation about this going on at <A HREF="http://www.autosurfcentralcafe.com" REL="nofollow">Auto Surf Central Cafe</A><BR/><BR/>Regarding point #6...that they call it 12DailyPRO is pure marketing. As I said, full disclosure shows that actual earnings are 3.6% per day gross.<BR/><BR/>While the company may have started out with the name 12DailyPro to play onSam Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264995340321794515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10633426.post-1139210005750934692006-02-06T02:13:00.000-05:002006-02-06T02:13:00.000-05:00Thank you for putting numbers to the 12DailyPro pu...Thank you for putting numbers to the 12DailyPro puzzle. It presents a much more believable picture, compared to the sensationalised media arguments of earning 3000% annualised return on investment.<BR/><BR/>As for your point #6, it's called 12 Daily Pro, which implies earning 12% daily. 8% over 12 days means a return of 96% (loss). Of course, they could always change the program such that they manic_depressive_1https://www.blogger.com/profile/16140018659680714744noreply@blogger.com